Can Lalit Vachani바카라�s New Documentary Change People바카라�s Minds About Umar Khalid?

I바카라�ve been wanting to do something on Hindu nationalism and the RSS; I바카라�ve made two in the past [The Boy in the Branch (1993), The Men in the Tree (2002)]. I had a nice conversation with my characters from my earlier films바카라�two are still in the RSS, one or two have moved out. It just wasn바카라�t crystallising into a project, because I think I was trying to make a big film. A film that tells you everything that the RSS is doing today, the canvas was just too broad. I was shooting for that till 2016. And only last year, did this idea fully crystallise in front of my eyes that instead of making one large film바카라�why don바카라�t I make a series of short films on Hindu nationalism and its effects on society?

 It was what took me to someone who was the researcher on my first film around the RSS, Shuddhabhrata Sengupta. We talked about many things, and one of them was about his friendship with Umar Khalid, the chargesheet and the whole case. At some point, he said that I should speak to Banojyotsana. I interview her, and I바카라�m under the impression that it will be a part of a larger project on the 2019 Delhi riots. I go back and look at the material, Umar바카라�s speeches and how systematically he바카라�s been depicted by Hindu nationalist forces in the years leading up to his arrest, is when the idea begins to crystallise in my head. That바카라�s when I decided that this would be the first part in the series, whose working title is Hindutva ke Afsaane.

One of my team members did suggest this바카라�but I thought that if I took that route, I would not be able to do justice to the material I had. For example, a colleague offered to share an interview they did with Umar around the time Batla House took place in 2008. He바카라�s very young in that, he probably hasn바카라�t even begun university around then. I knew my jump-off point for the film was always going to be the JNU protests that took place in 2016바카라�because it was the first time that the media began taking part in this witch hunt around students (especially those from the central universities).

I don바카라�t know how conscious I was about it while putting the film together바카라�but one scene that really works for me, is the first footage we see of him talking about how he바카라�s forgotten to pack slippers [Khalid jokes about how his haters might throw a pair of slippers at him, which he might be able to wear since he had forgotten to pack his own]. It바카라�s just the ordinariness of it that I enjoy, he바카라�s giving a speech바카라�it바카라�s not even anything political, but his sense of humour is terrific.

Another bit where he바카라�s reading out the new things he바카라�s learning about himself from the national media [linking him to a terror outfit, saying he recently went to Pakistan]바카라�the irreverence sticks out for me. Even his friends like Shuddha, the way he argues for how there바카라�s a place for Umar in our society [probably humanises him]. But I guess, it could be seen as a hagiography in a way because it바카라�s genuinely coming from a place of appreciation for someone who is spending his best years behind bars.

No. Some people felt that he hadn바카라�t responded adequately to Umar바카라�s situation바카라�he may have his own reasons for it. But yes, he has moved into another sphere altogether. It could바카라�ve been an interesting addition, but ultimately I chose to stick to Umar바카라�s journey.

Or worse [laughs]. It바카라�s an interesting thought for sure. This friend of mine at Columbia Journalism School was telling me about the scene involving Arnab berating and shouting Umar down on his primetime show. They said they watched it live, but were still shocked when it played. I바카라�ve seen that clip hundreds of times in the process of making the film바카라�and I바카라�m still horrified, sometimes even angered by it. This journalist is obviously very proud of his performance바카라�the disparity in our worlds is just surprising. The national media바카라� I don바카라�t think I see any difference between them and the Hindu nationalist media.

I had a small grant from the university where I teach. I have spent some money out of my own pocket, because the post-production can often be expensive. But I바카라�m in a fortunate space바카라� where I have a full-time job, so I can always save some money to pour into my documentary. I haven바카라�t really thought of a revenue stream. I think my hope is to show this film as widely as possible, and to mobilise people around the injustice being meted out to this group of young, promising individuals. I half-joking told some friends how we should try and show the film to the Chief Justice바카라�only to get their response on what is going on within the justice system.

Mubi have me on their website, but they바카라�ve never approached me. Netflix had approached me, I think, among the first wave of documentary filmmakers back in 2015-16. I remember saying that I would get back to them and never did. I was a bit conscious about my RSS films being circulated around, something I바카라�ve grown more open to over the years. But Netflix won바카라�t approach me now.

I hope it바카라�s cyclical. I hope we바카라�ll come out of this universe that we currently inhabit, where people talking about non-violence are put behind bars, while those in positions of power instigating violence roam around freely. I hope this changes. Of course, a lot of it has to do with this regime controlling institutions. I do hope there바카라�s this deep yearning for true freedom. I바카라�m hoping that people will see through how they바카라�re being pitted against university students by branding them to be enemies of the state. I think it partly reflected in the [2024] election results.

I hope this film can be the fulcrum for the conversation around the release of all political prisoners [not just Umar], who have been wrongly incarcerated for so long. I want people to see this incredible injustice being done to these people in the prime of their youth, forced to spend their time behind bars.

I think there are two levels to this바카라�I바카라�m making the film to consolidate the base. I don바카라�t see it as an echo chamber, I think people who care for Umar Khalid have all the more reason to voice their dissent against the injustice he바카라�s facing. There바카라�s a large swathe of the population that simply doesn바카라�t know enough to have an informed opinion on Umar Khalid. I see this film as a medium to communicate basic facts around his arrest. I shared the film with my families, and they were quite surprised to find out his speech was about Gandhi바카라�since it바카라�s clearly not what the mainstream media is portraying.

You바카라�re never going to convince the Op-India crowd. They바카라�ve already judged and pronounced his guilt. I don바카라�t think this ideological gulf will ever be filled. I would be naive if I thought I would be able to change their minds. They will forever be critical of films like mine, While We Watched, Anand바카라�s film (Reason), or Writing with Fire. Like we will be critical of their writing. It바카라�s fine.